Gibson Guitar Ebay seller fraud

JCP · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: Gibson Guitar Ebay seller fraud

Hi Folks,

I've had very good luck with buying used guitars on the internet/ebay, but it can be a very rocky road if you're not sure of what you're looking at..

Gibsons are being knocked off in China and put up as real Gibby's. There are some good links on the ebay site demonstrating fraudulent guitar seller tactics. We usually expect these Chinese fakes to be listed by a China seller, often for starting prices of less than a dollar.

What's worse is when someone in the U.S. trys to pawn off these fakes, as you will see if you click on the link I'm providing. If you're at all familiar with Gibsons, the picture of the headstock/truss rod cover is a dead giveaway.

What I hate to think of is a young person saving up for their first Gibson and losing their money to a thief like this.

If you're a first-time buyer, do some research and be very familiar with the model you seek. As you'll see here, 100% feedback may be meaning- less. (Only two small sales, the rest buyer feedback)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270239817740&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

I have reported this listing to ebay security, BTW.

JCP · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry to report that ebay didn't take any action, and some poor soul bought that guitar w/buy it now.

herb · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:57 am Post subject:

I'd say somebody got screwed, then. Confused

I've always avoided ebay for a couple of reasons - this is one of them. The other is that it appears to be as addictive as heroin; and I spend too much time at this computer as it is! Wink

tw001_tw · Tadpole Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 26 Location: St. Louis

That's a shame. Crying or Very sad

2manyGuitars · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:42 am Post subject:

I just e-mailed the buyer and filled him in on the situation.

2manyGuitars · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject:

Got a reply back from the buyer and he got a refund. The seller said he had no idea it was fake. The buyer thanked me, mentioned he had 3 people contact him and said it was nice to see that some people still look out for each other.

herb · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject:

Voodoo Funk · Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:16 am Post subject:

I agree with HERB...that guy knew exactly what he had and what he sold..the guy was LUCKY he got his money back as it waas in the BEST INTREST on the RIP OFF to do so ....
EBAY does not remove these listings because they GET PAID WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE FRAUDS OR NOT>

THAT's why EBAY has that DISCLAIMER on the front page so they do not hget sued.....EBAY has become a DUMPING GROUND for all kinds of crapola.

There are a few reputable dealers on EBAY but for the MOST PART I would NOT buy from EBAY.....except if it's from WHICHITA BAND or a VERY WELL KNOWN DEALER.

I would rather send the couple bucks I may be saving on getting one from a dealer close to me...these things are way to expensive to begin with to put my money on the word of a STRANGER....though some people have had great luck....I did but that was YEARS AGO.....NOW I use it for parts ONLY !!!!!

JUST MY OPINION
Voodoo Cool

thunderhawk · Not So Newbie Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 8

Henry has spent millions teaching the Chinese how to guild Gibson copies, it's almost funny/Ironic that they are now selling Gibson "copies" back to us?

After the record that the Chinese have, with "copywrite" etc, what did he expect?
He's even sued them?
what does he expect?
The Chinese Gov doesn't care.
They OWN most of the companies?

The ones I feel bad for, are the kids buying this stuff,

ebay/internet

beware......

Hawk